Hey everyone I know there is a few cheap climbers out there but don't go buying petzl gear of strangers if he dosen't kill you his gear will ;) only go to authentic dealers. Fake Chinese products have managed to escape China and are breaking at half the rated strength!! which is easily produced in a climbing fall http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/news-2/2011/02/11/warning-regarding-presence-counterfeit-versions-petzl-products